Just The Facts…. Deuce
Written by Mark Harris on April 28th, 2005Ok everyone ready for part two… This time I feel the need to correct some mis-statements by Mr. Mazanec, who I know and generally like but totally disagree with on this race.
Mark,
I understand your Anti-Gourley spin on the Krueger letter, after all this is politics. However if, as you admit, RDI and financial ethics is the central issue in this campaign, then how can you ignore the fact the Davidson campaign is actively and aggressively misleading CRs on the financial picture of the CRNC (and arguably California as well).
Even IF Davidson was spinning the CRNCs financial picture, which I do not concede, but for the sake of debate, you like every other Gourley supporter CAN NOT justify Gourley’s defrauding of the senior citizens. I challenged you guys to several weeks ago and you never did. So before you attack Davidson atleast TRY to defend Gourley, because if you are willing to concede the reality of RDI then one can not logically support Gourley. I look forward to your prompt response.
Davidson used bloated non IRS numbers that included millions in fake RDI debt (the CRNC is not 4-5 MILLION dollars in debt, in fact they are not in debt at all) to create the dishonest impression that the CRNC only gave 0.28% of its expenditures to states in 2004. In fact the actual number was roughly 50% and none of the money went to Minnesota as Davidson would have us believe. He knew all this and still choose to distort the truth for his own personal advantage- is that the fiscal transparency you want?
Ok I will concede the fake RDI debt thing as I have not looked into how the Davidson people calculated the debt, I hope they didn’t include those but if they did that’s poor politics on their fault but well not stealing from old folks. BUT this Minnesota nonsense is just that nonsense. I have contacted Krueger hoping he will provide to me a list of what of the CRNC disbursements was block grants and what was “funneling of money.” I mean it is clearly listed on the CRNC’s IRS reports, so I don’t think it was too much of a leap of faith that if a disbursement from the CRNC to the MN CRs or others was reported to the IRS that it was in fact the case. Mazanec, this is something where we can find common ground, let’s get a full account of the CRNC finances so we can see that Davidson is lying. In fact, I think you should call on the CRNC to release all their books so we can see how badly Davidson is lying. But you and I both know they won’t do that and let’s not kid ourselves about why. Its time to end the Don Hoplin silence is golden routine and spread some light on this business so we ALL can know the truth. Join me in calling for it Brian.
Davison has willfully distorted his own record in California as well by using an undocumented $150,000 figure that includes in-kind contributions (his own website says so). This means that if there was a nice $1,000/table dinner in Sacramento and the CCRs got free tickets he could add that to his deceitful fundraising figure. I know if we used this kind of accounting when I was Virginia’s State Chairman I could have claimed to have raised 300 times what I actually did. This is just patently dishonest.
Well if this is true yeah it proves they fudged their numbers which is highly disappointing and condemnable, but one question. Where’s the beef? If you think Davidson is lying do you have proof? Proof…! And a second question: Did the Davidson folks willingly defraud people? Show me one instance where they willingly defrauded people, ONE TIME and I will call on both candidates to drop out as neither is suited for office. Davidson ain’t perfect, but at the same time he’s done a good job in CA even it was only $100k instead of $150k.
Thus, if unethical finances grounded in RDI are the driving issue in this campaign, Davidson certainly shouldn’t be your knight in shining armor.
Respectfully,
~Brian Mazanec
PS: I humbly suggest your blog posts the Krueger letter so CRs can decide for themselves. Commentary is good but the primary document should be there as well.
Look this is really easy ethical calculus:
1. Davidson isn’t perfect but by ALL accounts he raised atleast what $50k for the CRs, has the best website in the country, ran a fantastic ground program, and has an A grade publication.
2. Gourley ADMITTED to defrauding seniors, for which he was congratulated as courageous. You have never been able to respond to this.
3. Therefore, we can logically deduce Davidson is the only capable not so tainted by ethical problems to be our CRNC chairman.
Come on everyone let’s say it again b/c clearly the Gourley campaign and the spinmeisters don’t get it…
R-D-I… L-a-p-e-l-p-i-n-s… nothing more need be said.
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R-D-I is O-V-E-R
Who will best represent us for the next two years? Someone with the guts to see a problem that needs addressing in his orginization and fix it? Or a person who lies to tear down the work of not just Paul, but the entire CRNC, and who himself is actively engaging in illegal activities?
H-A-N-D-C-U-F-F-S for D-A-V-I-D-S-O-N
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ok MG? Illegal activites? What are these illegal activities? Also we hold people accountable for these activities, the RDI contract may be terminated but a guy who signed their letters and KNEW what was going on is running for nat’l chair. Time to hold him accountable for his actions.
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Mark, what is the reality of RDI?
Last I checked as a national board we got rid of it. I think that was the first time in 13 years anyone did anything towards it, yet it is all Paul’s fault! Think of how ridiculous that sounds. I never met Michael until CPAC because he chronically absent from state chair training, from the New Orleans board meeting and so forth and yet here he criticizes the very board that got rid of it. And using false numbers, without having his own numbers from his tenure in order, etc.
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Yes it is Paul’s fault Brian. You sign the letter it IS your fault.
By the Way…For the truth on Krueger’s spin see: http://www.crncrealitycheck.blogspot.com
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Yes after renewing the contract for three years, after getting his hand caught in the cookie jar, he ended it. They knew what was in those letter and LET it happen, because it brought in money. That’s why. Let’s not kid ourselves.
Hoplin applauded Gourley as courageous for signing them and Gourley knew what was in them. FACTS! These are facts? You guys can’t get out of reality and that’s reality.
Paul Gourley doesn’t deserve anything after he so morally comrpomised himself to sign those letter and if we elect him Chairman than it proves how souless and careerist based the CRs are. We need a total internal audit, cause quite frankly as your campaign has proven repeatedly no one knows what the hell happened in the CRNC. Its time to find out. Join me Bryan in calling for an audit. You want the truth, I want the truth.
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Actually Bryan if you would check your records individuals like former national secretary R. Stuart Jones have been trying to get the CRNC out of the RDI contract all the way back to 2001.
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In 2002 I was with R. Stuart ‘Stewey’ Jones in north-east Louisana campaigning for Suzy T. I don’t remember anything of the such, but he knows my email and knows my character enough to approach me in private.
As for Davidson’s 527 that everyone claims isn’t a 527. The CA CR filed a form 8871 in 03 as a PAC. They have had 0 subsequent filings with irs and their ein pulls up nada on the fec website.
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I’m sure that Stu, is up all night looking at your blog, and just because he spent a weekend with you in 2002, doesn’t mean he wasn’t raising the issue at meetings of the national executive committee, which I am pretty sure you’ve never been a part of. Stu brought this point up to me personally when discussing the campaign, that he was one of the first out there to object to this horrible contract, but it was Hoplin as Executive Director who defended the contract.
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