Propaganda
Written by YellowJacket on December 9th, 2006Watch this: anti-Iraq propaganda.
Pure bs.
Heaven forbid we fight a war that we responded to after numerous terrorist attacks. Heaven forbid we fight the very people that who want to kill all of us. Heaven forbid we learn lessons from the past. Heaven forbid we don’t abandon people who have depended on us for several years to save them, to defend them, and to deliver them from tryanny.
I have never been so angered and emotionally touched by such B.S. videos. This video is complete and utter propoganda meant to smear and misrepresent the sacrifices this country made in Vietnam and the current war in the Middle East. Were mistakes made in Vietnam? Yes. Have mistakes been made in this war? Absolutely (I’m talking to you, Rumsfeld, follow the Powell Doctrine next time).
This does not excuse misrepresenting our focus and our goals in fighting this current war. This war is not WWII. This war is not Vietnam. Are ther parallels? Sure, there will be parallels between any two wars. This is a war against fundamentalist nutheads who want to either convert us or kill us all. There is no middle ground. There is no negotiation. We must kill every last one of these people who demand that we follow their cult or die. This truly is a fight for civilization; this is a fight for life or death.
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I think one of the better things to come out of this war will be, or should be (maybe I’m getting my hopes up), is that the military will be restored to its size before the Clinton presidency.
A lot of people don’t know, Clinton cut the standing army by more than half. We could really use higher troop levels right about now, and I think many in Congress are seeing that.
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I love all this use of “we”. Are you an able-bodied person, Mr. Perry? Why aren’t you and all your friends over there instead of sitting around your CR meetings drinking, talking about how noble this war is? Lawrence O’Donnell had it exactly right — because you’re a coward. While Bush’s daughters get drunk in Argentina, scores of mothers lost their children. Either start putting on your fatigues or shut up.
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I would be at a military service academy right now if the U.S. Armed Forces allowed the hearing-impaired to serve. Go screw yourself.
You are an arrogant SOB. Saying that only those who serve can have an opinion on international affairs is absolutely inane thinking. You are such a self-righteous little man who thinks that by saying “gotcha” and lecturing others about morals aboard your high horse you can win arguments and appear intelligent.
I’m here to tell you that you appear to be an immature, unknowledgeable, insolent little prick who doesn’t know the first thing about civil debate. I’m going to quit commenting before I start cursing at you, that’s how much you have stoked my anger. Grow up.
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Hey, I’m actually willing to admit that I’m a coward! Then again, I don’t sit around over cigars and brandy talking about how much courage our President is showing by sitting in his air-conditioned office and sending people to his meat grinder in Iraq.
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Yeah I mean we should just send President Bush, leader of the free world, to the front lines, right? You’re an idiot.
And for the record, I’m not a huge fan of brandy.
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No, but I’d go for sending his kids. That way, he might actually feel some personal connection to it.
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I’ll also point out that GWB did have a chance to serve, and he didn’t because he was too much of a coward. Dick Cheney had “other priorities.” I just find it ironic that the loudest voices in favor of war are the ones who chickened out when their chance actually came along.
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I thought the Powell Doctrine was if you’re going to commit to a war, make sure you use enough overwhelming force that you win. Honestly, if we’re in a fight for our very civilization here, I think we need more than 100,000 troops over there. Something doesn’t add up.
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We have a volunteer army. If you want Bush’s daughters to serve you’ll have to talk to them… their father is irrelevant, and so is your entire argument.
And yes, David, that is what the Powell Doctrine is, which was my point.
“anonymous,” unless you are a doctor, I never want to hear your opinion on medical issues. Unless you are in the military, I don’t want to hear your opinion on war and peace. Unless you are a chef, I don’t even want to hear your opinion on your favorite macaroni and cheese. Because gosh darnit, if you’re not employed in the industry that you’re discussing, you shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion.
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War is fundamentally different — Macaroni and cheese doesn’t kill people. YOU advocate decisions that require OTHER people to put their ass on the line, even though you’re too much of a chicken to do so yourself.
I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, anyway. I’m not especially interested in car repair advice from my barber.
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You must not have read my initial comment in response to your rude bloviating. Go back and re-read it (hint: I would be in the armed forces if I could). We have a volunteer army. Your whole argument is bunk because of this. Nobody is forced to serve. I am not a hypocrite for advocating an agressive foreign policy just because I’m not in the armed forces, and for you to say such is absolutely ridiculous.
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We’ve certainly considered many of these points, but not all of them. In particular:
7) Action must be supported by the American people- I think not. We haven’t had such large public demonstrations against a government policy in many years.
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You are correct about waning support for the war as of late, but during the months before the invasion and after the successful invasion public support was high. Here’s the Wikipedia summary of the polling throughout the war, and here’s a Washington Post article from May 17, 2003. Excerpt:
Broad international support is laughable since we now know that France, Russia, and Germany were benefitting from Saddam in the Oil-for-Food scandal.