1 Aug
The Club for Growth has organized a petition of 1028 economists that are united in their belief that new barriers to trade must not be enacted by this congress. They warn that new proposed tariffs imposed on our second largest trading partner China would have a ruinous effect on the economy not only of this country but of the entire world.
Why 1028 economists? Well that is the exact same number that signed a petition way back in 1930 to encourage President Hoover and congress not to enact the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. We all know how well that last petition worked out, let’s hope this country’s leaders have learned something in the last 77 years.
As an aside that is mostly relevant to Alex, Langley and myself two professors from Georgia Tech signed the petition: Li Haizheng and Christine Ries neither of whom I have heard of before, but will keep my eye out for from now on. As for the other alama maters of Save the GOP:
Drexel University: Bang Jeon and Joseph R. Mason
George Washington University: John Berthoud, Donald O. Parsons, Joseph Pelzman, Michael Wiseman, and Yang Jiawen
Some of the more prominent names to sign the petition include: Dick Armey, Daniel Drezner, Bryan Caplan & Arnold Kling, Mark Perry, Grover Norquist, Donald Luskin, John L. Barry, Eric Rasmusen, Don Boudreaux, Bill Conerly, Roy Cordato, Michael Cosgrove, Stephen Entin, David Gitlitz, John Goodman, Monty Graham, Wendy and Sen. Phil Gramm and their son Marshall Gramm, Robert Hall, Glenn Hubbard, Andrei Illarionov, Tim Kane, Raymond Keating, Larry Kudlow, Arthur Laffer, John Landon, Thomas Lenard, Philip Levy, Greg Mankiw, Lawrence McQuillan, Marc Miles, James Miller III, Adrian Moore, Ramon Myers, Richard Rahn, David Ranson, Michael Rizzo, Harvey Rosen, Paul Rubin, John Rutledge, Gary Shilling, George Shultz, Vlad Signorelli, John Silvia, David Tuerck, Richard Vedder, Alan Viard, Elizabeth Webbink, David Weiskopf, Brian Wesbury (PDF), Walter Williams, Richard Zecher, Benjamin Zycher, not to mention Nobel Laureates Finn Kydland, Edward Prescott, Thomas Schelling and Vernon Smith.
You may recognize some but not all of these names, but they are a mix of accomplished academics, think tank analysts, research consultants, investors, bloggers, free market advocates, businessmen, and former government officials who understand that when you artificially raise the price of the flow of goods between two countries you stifle economic growth in both lands.
Some interesting trivia emerged has I scanned over the list of economists who lent their names to the petition. Firstly, like I said before this was an eclectic mix of people, not merely economists at elite universities who are applying theory to a real world issue. This gives the petition more weight than if only professors had signed it, though their contribution was equally necessary.
Secondly, I was slightly surprised at the large number of economists with a Chinese or other East Asian background who had signed onto the free market statement. I wasn’t surprised that they existed, because Chinese and East Asian nationals, immigrants and Americans of such ancestry represent a large proportion of the modern academy both here and abroad. Nor was I surprised that they were willing to sign a petition supporting free trade, but the numbers were higher than I had expected.
The Chinese community in America generally leans left, though this is a difficult statement to support at times because Chinese-Americans have very diverse histories and therefore have divergent interests. In a casual count, out of the 1028 economists listed, 75 had a Chinese surname or first name (usually just married women in this case) which I counted as having some cultural affinity at some level to China and the Chinese world abroad. This does not of course include women who had a western first name before they were married so there might be a bit of an undercount but I feel it is better to lean to the side of caution in this case. This only represents 7% of the petitioners but for an academically slanted group to begin with that is surprising amount of free market support on this issue.
When all East Asians are considered, with some Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese and Thai names thrown in, the numbers are even higher, though the Chinese names represent the greatest among them. Out of the 1028 economists, a rough total of 101 were of East Asian origin or 9.8%. I don’t know if these numbers are in or out of the norm, but they are food for thought.
So why am I even talking about this? Because this issue has brought non-traditional conservatives to the “right” side of a free market issue. Now I don’t think a single one of these economists with an East Asian background signed the petition because China (and other parts of East Asia) loomed large as places that would be devastated by stiff tariffs. I think they signed it because they believed in what was written down and nothing more. But I do think that this petition is a microcosm of what is happening in the country as whole in terms of attitude adjustments that are made based on self-interest but end up helping the general good as Adam Smith explained in 1776. When a group of economists who are Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese nationals look at this issue, even if they do lean slightly left, they are strongly compelled to respect reality and not support a policy that shoots their other interests (in this case economic growth back home) in the foot. This is more an issue with the general population than a tiny slice of an even tinier slice of economists, but it is nice to see nonetheless.
12 Responses for "1028 Economists Petition Congress"
There’s too much junk on this list. Dick Armey, for example, is hardly a reputable economist on account of his degree from the “University” of Oklahoma. Also, I’ve seen Schelling in person and he’s a senile old idiot. In addition, his expertise has NOTHING to do with this matter, so it’s a false appeal to authority.
Note that the nobel laureates who actually work on international trade and finance did *not* sign on to this idiotic gimmick.
hmm this is correct that China should not put a tariff on since this would cause a glabal problem mainly because that Chinese states run banks have overinvested in the export secrotor, so any slowdown in that sector would cause massive failures in the finicial system which woul;d spread across asia. the thing though is the United States should punish china hard though for its lack of respect for any copyright law. Chinese counterfirts killed some kids in latin america recenlty and so the chinese need to be punished.
Schelling being an old man whose expertise is elsewhere in the field of economics and Dick Armey having gone to OU really have nothing to do with the underlying facts of the petition (besides it makes you sound like an elitist little prick and you wouldn’t want that I am sure). Though it doesn’t surprise me in the slightest that you have keyed on points that take you as far away as possible from having to engage in an intelligent discussion of international trade and economics; arguments you don’t seem to believe you can win.
No, I’d be happy to have a discussion about international trade; in fact, I agree (at least in principle) with many of the key points. However, you motivated your argument with an utterly bogus and misleading appeal to authority, so I just thought I should point this out to your readers.
Perhaps you and I disagree as to the authority of the men and women I listed above. For me, the fact that a large number of them work in the private sector and live and die by the profits of their trade vs the endless cash teat of the government is very significant. These are men who make real money in the real world and in my book that carries some weight to it. The numerous academics listed are not wrong in any of their conclusions of course but there is a gulf between the two types of economists.
If you begin with the assumption that the type of economist who signed this petition isn’t fit to lick Galbraith or Keynes boot then it is probably hard to see them as having the gravity to address this issue. As for me, so many respected names jumped off the list that I was shocked that they were able to muster as many notables as they did.
I find all of this utterly bizarre, and I majored in economics. I mean this list is utterly devoid of all the truly big names in economic thought. Notice the absence of any true luminaries like Becker or Posner? Schelling is indeed the biggest name on this list, and I listened to him two months ago tell a crowd how he’d love to go to Iran to advise them on their nuclear weapons program to insure that they were able to defend themselves.
I mean so you found 1028 “economists,” big deal. It’s just so silly.
Now the matter itself: free trade with China would be an amazing thing, if China kept up their end of the bargain. And this they most certainly do not do through policies of currency manipulation, encouragement of piracy, etc. There’s no reason to let our biggest competitor in the world economy take advantage of us in that way.
Again, clearly the names on this list carry more weight with some than with others.
Donald Luskin is a very well respected economic analyst who is the CIO for Trend Macrolytics, which advises real firms with billions in assets. John Berry is president and CEO of American Investment Services with real money under management. John Berthoud, President of the National Taxpayers Union doesn’t ring any bells? Bill Conerly runs Conerly Consulting with major clients in the Pacific Northwest. Michael Cosgrove runs Econoclast a major consulting firm and has 15 years of experience in the private sector prior to that. David Gitlitz is the chief economist at Trend Macrolytics. Robert Hall has worked for the the Justice Department, Treasury Department, Federal Reserve Board, Task Force on Inflation Policy under Reagan, and was a member of the National Presidential Advisory Committee on Productivity. Glenn Hubbard is the Dean of the Columbia Business School, he chaired the Council of Economic Advisors for the bulk of Bush II’s first term, was strongly considered as a possible Fed Chairman after Alan Greenspan retired, was one of the economists who designed the Bush 03 tax cuts, Andrei Illarionov served for two years as the chief economic adviser to the Prime Minister of Russia, Time Kane has been involved in the startup of four firms and publishes the Index of Economic Freedom at the Heritage Foundation. I shouldn’t have to tell you the the bio of a guy like Larry Kudlow, the guy is a heavyweight.
I mean guys like Arthur Laffer, Greg Mankiw, Walter Williams, or David Weiskopf are not lightweights in the world of business or economics.
The only major name I can think of you is not on this list is Thomas Sowell, one of the most prominent economists of our time. It is well known however that he would most likely agree with the petition.
Greg Mankiw wrote my econ textbook, more than one of them in fact ;D
which may explain why you know so little about economics — Mankiw’s principles and intermediate macro texts vie for the poorest treatments of the subject I’ve ever seen.
Care to expound on that hyperbole? Or better yet, state your own qualifications, which I for one am very interested in appraising.
PS. I hope you have at least worked for the Federal Reserve Board or been the Chairman of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers because to attack a guy who has done that as not being up to snuff is a little odd.
Oh, I never said that Mankiw isn’t a respectable economist, just that his textbooks are lousy. Plenty of good economists have written lousy textbooks over the years.
Now, on Mankiw specifically, I think he’s turned into an unprincipled hack, but I never questioned his professional qualifications. Incidentally, the Fed isn’t the top of the line for the economics profession; most of the PhDs the Fed hire are either people who couldn’t get an academic job or people who are lazy and don’t want to put in the time necessary to get tenure at an R1 university (not true of Mankiw — but true of most people at the Fed). I suspect that he was tapped to be the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors because of the ease with which he’s been willing to sell out. Most people with his qualifications are more principled.
Sell out to what? I hear what you are saying but all of your charges are a little vague. So you are saying he is a respectable economist, but . . .?
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