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	<title>Comments on: 1028 Economists Petition Congress</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308836</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sell out to what?  I hear what you are saying but all of your charges are a little vague.  So you are saying he is a respectable economist, but  . . .?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sell out to what?  I hear what you are saying but all of your charges are a little vague.  So you are saying he is a respectable economist, but  . . .?</p>
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		<title>By: publius</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308808</link>
		<dc:creator>publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I never said that Mankiw isn't a respectable economist, just that his textbooks are lousy. Plenty of good economists have written lousy textbooks over the years.

Now, on Mankiw specifically, I think he's turned into an unprincipled hack, but I never questioned his professional qualifications. Incidentally, the Fed isn't the top of the line for the economics profession; most of the PhDs the Fed hire are either people who couldn't get an academic job or people who are lazy and don't want to put in the time necessary to get tenure at an R1 university (not true of Mankiw -- but true of most people at the Fed). I suspect that he was tapped to be the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors because of the ease with which he's been willing to sell out. Most people with his qualifications are more principled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I never said that Mankiw isn&#8217;t a respectable economist, just that his textbooks are lousy. Plenty of good economists have written lousy textbooks over the years.</p>
<p>Now, on Mankiw specifically, I think he&#8217;s turned into an unprincipled hack, but I never questioned his professional qualifications. Incidentally, the Fed isn&#8217;t the top of the line for the economics profession; most of the PhDs the Fed hire are either people who couldn&#8217;t get an academic job or people who are lazy and don&#8217;t want to put in the time necessary to get tenure at an R1 university (not true of Mankiw &#8212; but true of most people at the Fed). I suspect that he was tapped to be the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors because of the ease with which he&#8217;s been willing to sell out. Most people with his qualifications are more principled.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308725</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Care to expound on that hyperbole?  Or better yet, state your own qualifications, which I for one am very interested in appraising.

PS. I hope you have at least worked for the Federal Reserve Board or been the Chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisers because to attack a guy who has done that as not being up to snuff is a little odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Care to expound on that hyperbole?  Or better yet, state your own qualifications, which I for one am very interested in appraising.</p>
<p>PS. I hope you have at least worked for the Federal Reserve Board or been the Chairman of the President&#8217;s Council of Economic Advisers because to attack a guy who has done that as not being up to snuff is a little odd.</p>
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		<title>By: publius</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308711</link>
		<dc:creator>publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which may explain why you know so little about economics -- Mankiw's principles and intermediate macro texts vie for the poorest treatments of the subject I've ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which may explain why you know so little about economics &#8212; Mankiw&#8217;s principles and intermediate macro texts vie for the poorest treatments of the subject I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph T McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308631</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph T McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Mankiw wrote my econ textbook, more than one of them in fact ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Mankiw wrote my econ textbook, more than one of them in fact ;D</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308625</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, clearly the names on this list carry more weight with some than with others.  

Donald Luskin is a very well respected economic analyst who is the CIO for Trend Macrolytics, which advises real firms with billions in assets.  John Berry is president and CEO of American Investment Services with real money under management.  John Berthoud, President of the National Taxpayers Union doesn't ring any bells?  Bill Conerly runs Conerly Consulting with major clients in the Pacific Northwest.  Michael Cosgrove runs Econoclast a major consulting firm and has 15 years of experience in the private sector prior to that.  David Gitlitz is the chief economist at Trend Macrolytics.  Robert Hall has worked for the the Justice Department, Treasury Department, Federal Reserve Board, Task Force on Inflation Policy under Reagan, and was a member of the National Presidential Advisory Committee on Productivity.  Glenn Hubbard is the Dean of the Columbia Business School, he chaired the Council of Economic Advisors for the bulk of Bush II's first term, was strongly considered as a possible Fed Chairman after Alan Greenspan retired, was one of the economists who designed the Bush 03 tax cuts, Andrei Illarionov served for two years as the chief economic adviser to the Prime Minister of Russia, Time Kane has been involved in the startup of four firms and publishes the Index of Economic Freedom at the Heritage Foundation.  I shouldn't have to tell you the the bio of a guy like Larry Kudlow, the guy is a heavyweight.   

I mean guys like Arthur Laffer, Greg Mankiw, Walter Williams, or David Weiskopf are not lightweights in the world of business or economics.

The only major name I can think of you is not on this list is Thomas Sowell, one of the most prominent economists of our time.  It is well known however that he would most likely agree with the petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, clearly the names on this list carry more weight with some than with others.  </p>
<p>Donald Luskin is a very well respected economic analyst who is the CIO for Trend Macrolytics, which advises real firms with billions in assets.  John Berry is president and CEO of American Investment Services with real money under management.  John Berthoud, President of the National Taxpayers Union doesn&#8217;t ring any bells?  Bill Conerly runs Conerly Consulting with major clients in the Pacific Northwest.  Michael Cosgrove runs Econoclast a major consulting firm and has 15 years of experience in the private sector prior to that.  David Gitlitz is the chief economist at Trend Macrolytics.  Robert Hall has worked for the the Justice Department, Treasury Department, Federal Reserve Board, Task Force on Inflation Policy under Reagan, and was a member of the National Presidential Advisory Committee on Productivity.  Glenn Hubbard is the Dean of the Columbia Business School, he chaired the Council of Economic Advisors for the bulk of Bush II&#8217;s first term, was strongly considered as a possible Fed Chairman after Alan Greenspan retired, was one of the economists who designed the Bush 03 tax cuts, Andrei Illarionov served for two years as the chief economic adviser to the Prime Minister of Russia, Time Kane has been involved in the startup of four firms and publishes the Index of Economic Freedom at the Heritage Foundation.  I shouldn&#8217;t have to tell you the the bio of a guy like Larry Kudlow, the guy is a heavyweight.   </p>
<p>I mean guys like Arthur Laffer, Greg Mankiw, Walter Williams, or David Weiskopf are not lightweights in the world of business or economics.</p>
<p>The only major name I can think of you is not on this list is Thomas Sowell, one of the most prominent economists of our time.  It is well known however that he would most likely agree with the petition.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Wallen</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308531</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Wallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find all of this utterly bizarre, and I majored in economics.  I mean this list is utterly devoid of all the truly big names in economic thought.  Notice the absence of any true luminaries like Becker or Posner?  Schelling is indeed the biggest name on this list, and I listened to him two months ago tell a crowd how he'd love to go to Iran to advise them on their nuclear weapons program to insure that they were able to defend themselves. 

I mean so you found 1028 "economists," big deal.  It's just so silly.

Now the matter itself:  free trade with China would be an amazing thing, if China kept up their end of the bargain.  And this they most certainly do not do through policies of currency manipulation, encouragement of piracy, etc.  There's no reason to let our biggest competitor in the world economy take advantage of us in that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find all of this utterly bizarre, and I majored in economics.  I mean this list is utterly devoid of all the truly big names in economic thought.  Notice the absence of any true luminaries like Becker or Posner?  Schelling is indeed the biggest name on this list, and I listened to him two months ago tell a crowd how he&#8217;d love to go to Iran to advise them on their nuclear weapons program to insure that they were able to defend themselves. </p>
<p>I mean so you found 1028 &#8220;economists,&#8221; big deal.  It&#8217;s just so silly.</p>
<p>Now the matter itself:  free trade with China would be an amazing thing, if China kept up their end of the bargain.  And this they most certainly do not do through policies of currency manipulation, encouragement of piracy, etc.  There&#8217;s no reason to let our biggest competitor in the world economy take advantage of us in that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308505</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you and I disagree as to the authority of the men and women I listed above.  For me, the fact that a large number of them work in the private sector and live and die by the profits of their trade vs the endless cash teat of the government is very significant.  These are men who make real money in the real world and in my book that carries some weight to it.  The numerous academics listed are not wrong in any of their conclusions of course but there is a gulf between the two types of economists.

If you begin with the assumption that the type of economist who signed this petition isn't fit to lick Galbraith or Keynes boot then it is probably hard to see them as having the gravity to address this issue.  As for me, so many respected names jumped off the list that I was shocked that they were able to muster as many notables as they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you and I disagree as to the authority of the men and women I listed above.  For me, the fact that a large number of them work in the private sector and live and die by the profits of their trade vs the endless cash teat of the government is very significant.  These are men who make real money in the real world and in my book that carries some weight to it.  The numerous academics listed are not wrong in any of their conclusions of course but there is a gulf between the two types of economists.</p>
<p>If you begin with the assumption that the type of economist who signed this petition isn&#8217;t fit to lick Galbraith or Keynes boot then it is probably hard to see them as having the gravity to address this issue.  As for me, so many respected names jumped off the list that I was shocked that they were able to muster as many notables as they did.</p>
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		<title>By: publius</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308493</link>
		<dc:creator>publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I'd be happy to have a discussion about international trade; in fact, I agree (at least in principle) with many of the key points. However, you motivated your argument with an utterly bogus and misleading appeal to authority, so I just thought I should point this out to your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;d be happy to have a discussion about international trade; in fact, I agree (at least in principle) with many of the key points. However, you motivated your argument with an utterly bogus and misleading appeal to authority, so I just thought I should point this out to your readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.savethegop.com/2007/08/01/1028-economists-petition-congress/#comment-308450</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schelling being an old man whose expertise is elsewhere in the field of economics and Dick Armey having gone to OU really have nothing to do with the underlying facts of the petition (besides it makes you sound like an elitist little prick and you wouldn't want that I am sure).  Though it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you have keyed on points that take you as far away as possible from having to engage in an intelligent discussion of international trade and economics; arguments you don't seem to believe you can win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schelling being an old man whose expertise is elsewhere in the field of economics and Dick Armey having gone to OU really have nothing to do with the underlying facts of the petition (besides it makes you sound like an elitist little prick and you wouldn&#8217;t want that I am sure).  Though it doesn&#8217;t surprise me in the slightest that you have keyed on points that take you as far away as possible from having to engage in an intelligent discussion of international trade and economics; arguments you don&#8217;t seem to believe you can win.</p>
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