Super Tuesday Results
Written by Mark Harris on February 5th, 2008Well my first post back will be boring: Super Tuesday results. I will be tracking them throughout the night at the GoogleSpreadsheet.
UPDATE: First vote in West Virginia Convention produced no 50% candidate, 2nd ballot scheduled for 1:30PM
UPDATE (12:40p): First vote tally in WV Convention was 41% for Romney, 33% for Huckabee, 16% for McCain, and 10% for Ron Paul. So will the Huckabee people team with McCain to block Romney? Or will they go with the closer ideologically to block McCain? Should be interesting.
UPDATE (1:20p): Ignore my analysis above, I meant to say will the McCain people team with the Romney because hes closer to them ideologically or will they vote strategically with Huckabee to block Romney. I am sure the McCain camp will instruct them to vote for Huck BUT Romney only needs to pick up 9%+1 to get there.
UPDATE (2:22p): I was right. The McCain people went heavily for Huck giving Huck a 52% win and the delegates. A big blow for Romney.
Delegates
UPDATE (3:12p): Well the next state up is Georgia whose polls close at 7pm. I will keep a pretty steady post going from 7pm through midnight or whenever California is called.
UPDATE (7:09p): Obama wins Georgia
UPDATE(8:29P - Sam) Huckabee won Alabama. McCain took New Jersey and Connecticut.
UPDATE(8:36P - Sam) McCain has won Delaware
UPDATE(8:39P - Sam) Huckabee has won Arkansas
UPDATE(8:42P - Sam) Romney has won Massachusetts. McCain has won Illinois
UPDATE(9:19P - Sam) McCain has won New York
UPDATE(9:57P - Sam) McCain has won Oklahoma
UPDATE(10:03P - Sam) Ok, here is a real shocker. Romney has won Utah.
UPDATE(10:18p - Mark) Connecticut for OBAMA– BIG UPSET. Is Clinton on the ropes?
UPDATE(10:34p - Mark) Romney is giving a fight goes on speech. I think he has to win in California though to be seen as having any chance. The third place finish in Tennesse, Georgia, etc is pretty brutal.
UPDATE(10:42p - Mark) TN and GA for Huckabee. Big night for Huck. Bad night for liberty. We need to stop the socialist from getting the VP nod.
UPDATE(11:27p - Mark) MN for Romney, a much needed win for Romney.
UPDATE(11:33p - mark) MT for Romney, another needed win. He holds a good lead in Colorado but not sure whats reporting. Coming in third in Missouri is definitely not good.
UPDATE(11:37p - Mark) Watching the McCain speech now but hard not to notice Joe Lieberman right behind him along with Charlie Crist. I am so torn about Lieberman’s support of McCain. On one side I think it is good for the country, but I fear the influence he would have on domestic policy.
UPDATE(11:51p - Mark) CO for Romney. Another good win
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Have fun!
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Let’s go Mitt!
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Some Mittmentum maybe?
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Come on Mitt…Stop McCain!!!
Voting for Mitt in about 4 Hours!
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Its interesting that West Virginia is holding a convention.
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Wouldn’t it have to be the McCain folk joining with the Huckabee folk? With Huck ahead of McCain, they are certainly not going to say they will vote for McCain.
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Well should it surprise anyone that Huckabee won with the support of the McCain delegates? The second choice of many McCain supporters is Huckabee and vice versa. The day already looks bad for Romney.
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Yup, Hucksterbee and McClinton are certainly working together to defeat Romney at which point Hucksterbee drops out.
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Bye, Bye GOP…congrats to the libs on the McCain victory….truly crushing…R.I.P. GOP
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God, how depressing! I really thought Mitt had a chance to pull out an upset–and those polls proved again to be so inaccurate on both the GOP and Dem sides.
Goeres, I echo your feelings. The GOP is so fractured right now–conservatives vs. moderates, south vs. northeast vs. west, grassroots vs. the party elites, etc. There’s no way these divisions could ever be repaired before November–absolutely no way, even if Hillary is the nominee.
It’s so depressing to see the true conservatives Fred and Romney–however flawed they each were–lose out to the moderate/liberal Republicans. Is this all part of a broader reaction to President Bush’s eight long years? It seems like the moderates have truly taken over the party. How very depressing. Even more depressing, we have many stars in the conservative movement, yet we are stuck with such a flawed set of candidates–I just don’t get it.
Well, I guess all we can do is hope for the best. It’s still morning in America.
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How exactly is the party fractured?
-John McCain polls something like 79-12 favorable/unfavorble among republicans
-John McCain who did very well in the northeast, came 2nd throughout the southern states he lost, and seemed to be clearly the 2nd choice among those who voted for Huckabee
-The only fracture is between some talk-radio heads and bloggers who have McCain derangement syndrome and everybody else who seem not to really care about what they think, the fact that flip-flop Romney was portrayed as the conservative alternative to McCain by some of them is a huge sham
Romney has failed to win any non-caucus state (i.e. state that he could not buy turnoout) that is not his “home-state”
I keep thinking that Romney can’t be as terrible a person as he comes across after this primary
-I think the only way for him to preserve any good grace is to humbly realize that he lost and announce that at CPAC-as Bill Kristol suggested
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I just came across this, which makes some of the above points way better then I did:
http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/004216.html
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Eliezer’s DC… yep McCain has around the same amount of support Bush did going into the 2000 election among Republicans. Few realize Bush never won more than 80-85 percent of Republicans. The big difference is that McCain is throwing off the party hacks like Limbaugh and is bringing the moderates home. In reality, McCain might lose votes in more conservative areas, but he will win more moderate Republican votes in places like Pennsylvania to offset any loses he might suffer in the south.
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The previous posters, including John, are correct. What this shows is how far out of the mainstream the people who run this blog are.
Despite an on-message all-out effort by your friends Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh to mobilize the sheep, McCain still won big. There aren’t that many sheep left, guys.
There are trends in history and there are sidenotes. Reagan-esque conservatism is going down as a sick sidenote, with moderate liberalism being the prevailing trend. Your next option is to start a third party that will probably do about as well as Ralph Nader. In 10 years, your movement will be marginalized that much. Mark my words.
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“Party hacks like Limbaugh?” God help the GOP base.
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“R.I.P GOP”
You have got to be kidding me. If nominating a presidential candidate who didn’t have the support of the entire party was enough to end a political party, then we would have new political parties every four years.
If the GOP survived Watergate, the Ford vs Reagan primary, and the 2006 elections then it will certainly continue to survive. In fact, McCain has a solid chance of winning against either Clinton or Obama.
If your willing to leave the party because of the presidential candidate and you chose to ignore all the Senate and House candidates, then fine leave.
But please don’t expect anyone to take you seriously when you predict the death of the GOP.
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Maybe you haven’t been tuned in in the past 4 years…the GOP has lost it’s way completely and the country club types are running the show.
You honestly think conservatives are going to stay in a party that will now champion:
1. Amnesty for illegal immigrants.
2. A crippling carbon-tax style global warming scare-mongering policy.
3. Limits on free speech via campaign finance reform.
4. A defunct energy policy that forbids drilling for more oil.
5. Opposition to tax cuts.
6. Civil rights for terrorists at Guantanamo.
7. That thinks judges like Samuel Allito are “too conservative”.
8. That opposes an amendment protecting human life.
9. That calls Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, and their ilk “good friends”
10. That spend the last 4 years rapidly expanding the size of the federal government.
You think that pursuing these policies isn’t the death knell of the GOP as we know it?
Are you kidding me?
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After the win by McCain, many are pointing to the lack of republicans to vote at the polls in comparison to the democrats. Truth is, there aren’t many who felt enough of a difference exists between those running for the GOP nod. McCain is likely to get that nod based on his present momentum, even without a huge support of the “conservative base.” I submit that when the General Election rolls around, the conservatives will come out in droves along with every other right minded republican. They wii be unitd to defeat the liberals and stop the insanity of the Clinton legacy or the Obama inexperience. With the fanatical hope for “any democrat,” the liberals will certainly show up in record numbers. I feel that they would support a monkey if he/she got the democrat nomination. Look for another very close, politically divided and disputed race.
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“You think that pursuing these policies isn’t the death knell of the GOP as we know it?”
No, I don’t think… I know. When the choice is either slow progress coupled with some setbacks or irrelevance, then people will take slow progress. I think many of your points are misleading. Just because McCain had supported some of those things in the past doesn’t mean the entire party will all the sudden champion those issues. President Bush supports the No Child Left Behind Act but that doesn’t stop other Republicans from working to get rid of it.
If you think the country club types are running the show now then you need to time travel back to the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, and Rockefeller. I agree the GOP has lost its way, especially on fiscal issues but predicting the death of the GOP is ridiculous. Goldwater only won 6 states and the GOP survived. We had a sitting Vice President resign because of charges of tax evasion, not too long after the sitting Republican President resigned due to scandal as well. Guess what the GOP survived.
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“Reagan-esque conservatism is going down as a sick sidenote”
Jeez, how do you really feel about it?!?
This isn’t the death of the Republican Party or of conservatism. It’s a huge bump in the road, yes, but conservative principles will live on and hopefully will once again take a more commanding role of the party.
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Death of the GOP as we know it is what I’m getting out…the conservative movement is no where near dead…it transcends party identification….but the GOP will be in the minority for the next 16 to 20 years again if it pursues this liberal policy agenda…so it is essentially dead as long as it thumbs it’s nose at conservatives.
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The party didn’t thumb its nose at conservatives. The last time I checked it wasn’t the party apparatus or the powers that be that nominated John McCain. It was your neighbors who voted at the polls on Election Day, so it’s rather silly of you to continue blaming the party for this.
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Write-In Romney….
Stay tuned…have already purchased the domain:
http://www.writeinromney.info
Will be up and running in days….spread the word.
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Why would I want to write in Romney when he is a liar.
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Stunning that McCain is not called a liar but Romney, who governed as a strong conservative, is….
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I suggest you put the Romney Kool-Aid down for a few minutes and actually thoroughly research his record.
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Fred is still on the ballot in many states
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I was an original Fred Thompson guy…so no Kool-Aid drinking here….just reality….no one has been able to point out a liberal governing record of Romney at all…just rhetoric.