12 Responses for "For your entertainment"

1. Michelle February 6th, 2008 at 4:35 pm 1

   Entertaining? Yea, it is sorta. But also quite sad. Sad, just how far the GOP has strayed from its principles. I like that you guys are all in favor of saving the GOP from fiscal liberalism, social liberalism and liberalism in general, but I’m afraid you’ve bought into the globalism that has been spoon fed to you by the very forces within the Republican Party with whom you fight on the other issues.

2. Roger February 7th, 2008 at 8:47 am 2

   so if the Republicans have done such a great job at fighting terrorism where:

   are the WMD’s?
   is Osama?

   0-2…. the party has failed, so don’t try the cheap shots when your party had all the control and came up short - TWICE.

3. Langley February 7th, 2008 at 9:19 am 3

   Globalism? Do tell, I ask you, what you mean by that.

   Do you mean the globalism as opposed by Pat Buchanan, or the globalism as opposed by Ron Paul? I’m guessing Paul, since you’re clearly a supporter of his on your website.

   By the way Ron Paul speaks, he would oppose the Monroe Doctrine which was pushed by a founding father. The notion that we have ever been “isolationist” (at least to the extent that Rep. Paul argues for) is a myth. The United States has been an active player on the world scene for as long as it has had the stature to be able to do so.

4. Sam February 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am 4

   I oppose the Monroe Doctrine.

5. Langley February 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am 5

   That’s fine for you and others who like Paul to oppose it. Just don’t wrap yourself in the mantle of the Founding Fathers when advocating strict isolationist policies, because it’s not historically accurate.

6. ChemistryDave February 7th, 2008 at 11:16 am 6

   Good point Langley. Paul’s citing of the “Founding fathers” doctrines is very selective. I suspect if many Paul supporters were more aware of history, they wouldnt be such claiming that mantle. Such is public school education.

7. Joel February 7th, 2008 at 11:24 am 7

   This is crazy. Does anyone remember the history of WW I and WW II? Does Paul remember 9/11? Does anyone pay attention to who the people are that we are fighting in Iraq (al Qaida are the main combatants there)?

   A Ron Paulian foreign policy would invite the enemies to our borders. Do not say, “when we no longer have bases in the Middle East they will not attack us.” That thinking almost let the Germans win WW II.

   Roger: the measure of fighting terrorism is not finding Osama or WMDs. It is preventing planes from flying into buildings and bombs exploding in our cities. Have we done a good job? YES.

   GOP strayed from its principles? Since when is the Libertarian foreign policy a GOP principle? It wasn’t with Goldwater. It wasn’t with Reagan.

   Amazing.

8. Michelle February 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm 8

   You guys need to read “A Choice Not an Echo” which launched the nomination of Barry Goldwater, which led to the Reagan conservative movement.

9. Sam February 7th, 2008 at 12:20 pm 9

   The Monroe Doctrine was written almost 200 years ago when this country was still an infant nation and still fearful of a threat like the British. Times have drastically changed. GOP principles have never included preemptive wars like the Bush doctrine. As a matter of fact, until the past twenty years or so, it was the Democrats who were dragging us into war after war after war. Even Lincoln didn’t take us into war until the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter.

   WWI and WWII are totally different issues than Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Grenada, Nicaragua, etc. Germany was a threat to us. These other countries weren’t. It is not fair to the people of this country to have to finance curing the misery the rest of the world brings upon itself with our lives and our money. What good did Vietnam do for the U.S. other than end the lives of 57,000 American men prematurely who had their own futures, not to mention the two million Vietnamese who were slaughtered afterwards? What good did Korea do when 50 years later the north is still a Communist nation that has never bared the slightest credible threat to our nation?

   The Roman Empire fell because it spread its resources too thin and eventually weakened itself as a result and they were the greatest empire to ever walk the earth, far more than us. Britain was another nation that eventually got beaten back with a stick. Why does nobody think history cannot repeat itself with our country as well? We are running a debt of $9.2 trillion and Bush goes and proposes a historical $3 trillion budget, mainly due to further increases in military spending. We have more than enough military mite to keep this country at number one. There is a such thing as over indulgence.

   I think many people who cheer on these policies would be singing a different tune if they were suddenly drafted into them.

10. Langley February 7th, 2008 at 12:24 pm 10

    If we were to bomb North Korea tomorrow, you can call that a pre-emptive war.

    I think calling the Iraq invasion a pre-emptive war is ludicrous considering there was active shooting at our planes in the no-fly zones for over a decade, Saddam had previously invaded one of our allied nation (thus the no-fly zones, et al), and he regularly played rope-a-dope with the international community about activities that he was not allowed to engage in due to his past offenses.

    Come on, don’t pretend that the “evil neocons” just woke up one day and decided on regime change in Iraq. There is a lot of history there that Paul and his supporters just choose to ignore.

11. Sam February 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm 11

    I am very aware of the recent history in Iraq and the Clinton administration’s feeling towards them as well, but as much of a bastard as Hussein was, he wasn’t a threat to this country.

    I didn’t buy the argument that he was a danger back in 2002 and it would appear history proved me correct.

12. Michael C February 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pm 12

    Sam I have to disagree with you. Any threat to oil production is a threat to us. Hussein because of the instability he fostered in the region was a threat.