Comments on: McCain Hasn’t Even Seen the Ad! http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:24:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: chemistrydave http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340522 chemistrydave Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:52:53 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340522 Ironically, there is a big post up on DailyKos smearing McCain about the Hagee controversy. Ironically, there is a big post up on DailyKos smearing McCain about the Hagee controversy.

]]> By: Michael C http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340511 Michael C Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:33:28 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340511 As it has not happened there is no need to comment on it. As it has not happened there is no need to comment on it.

]]> By: chemistrydave http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340509 chemistrydave Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:49:17 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340509 Publius, It is going on right now, have you not heard the ongoing story about John Hagee and Mccain? The liberals are pushing that story as hard as can be, an Mccain never went to the guys church, just stood on a stage with him. Further, are you claiming that the media has never carried out an issue for far too long about a republican? That is an argument that even you would not try to make. Publius,
It is going on right now, have you not heard the ongoing story about John Hagee and Mccain? The liberals are pushing that story as hard as can be, an Mccain never went to the guys church, just stood on a stage with him. Further, are you claiming that the media has never carried out an issue for far too long about a republican? That is an argument that even you would not try to make.

]]> By: Publius http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340499 Publius Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:03:38 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340499 Again, what if one of your movement conservatives attended an evangelical church where the pastor made homophobic remarks? You people would be up in arms if the media railroaded him about this for weeks on end (this has now been going on for over a month). Again, what if one of your movement conservatives attended an evangelical church where the pastor made homophobic remarks? You people would be up in arms if the media railroaded him about this for weeks on end (this has now been going on for over a month).

]]> By: Ryan http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340472 Ryan Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:11:34 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340472 Interesting take on the ad. I have to say I did not think of it as a hidden attack on Obama not so much the candidates for governor. The real question is whether they are trying to soften him for McCain or to help lessen his margin of victory so Clinton will continue to fight on for longer. Interesting take on the ad. I have to say I did not think of it as a hidden attack on Obama not so much the candidates for governor.

The real question is whether they are trying to soften him for McCain or to help lessen his margin of victory so Clinton will continue to fight on for longer.

]]> By: Press 7 for Celtic http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340470 Press 7 for Celtic Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:47:26 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340470 I think y'all are missing some of the NC GOP's strategy here. Yes, linking the two Dem candidates for governor through Obama to Wright's raving lunacy is tenuous at best. It's almost like a political version of "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon". But the ad wasn't really about the gubernatorial campaign. They threw that in as an afterthought to legitimize it as a "state" ad. It was really hit directly at Obama. Why attack Obama? Well, the most immediate reason is that North Carolina votes on May 6th. The party probably hopes that this ad will soften Obama up and allow Hillary to catch up to him. It won't happen, of course, but think of it as a institutionalized form of Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos". More distantly, if Obama is the nominee, N.C.'s high black population might put it in play in the general. This ad softens him up early so that McCain won't have to. Oh, and don't forget that the NC GOP is probably raking in cash from across the country thanks to the free airtime this ad has received. Pretty clever on their part, I must confess. As for the ad itself- the only thing racist about it was the hateful bigotry coming out of Rev. Wright's pie-hole. If Barack Obama has a problem with it, he should have left that church long ago. Now he has to deal with the consequences of calling a raving racist hatemonger his "spiritual advisor". Too bad for him. I think y’all are missing some of the NC GOP’s strategy here.

Yes, linking the two Dem candidates for governor through Obama to Wright’s raving lunacy is tenuous at best. It’s almost like a political version of “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon”. But the ad wasn’t really about the gubernatorial campaign. They threw that in as an afterthought to legitimize it as a “state” ad. It was really hit directly at Obama.

Why attack Obama? Well, the most immediate reason is that North Carolina votes on May 6th. The party probably hopes that this ad will soften Obama up and allow Hillary to catch up to him. It won’t happen, of course, but think of it as a institutionalized form of Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos”.

More distantly, if Obama is the nominee, N.C.’s high black population might put it in play in the general. This ad softens him up early so that McCain won’t have to.

Oh, and don’t forget that the NC GOP is probably raking in cash from across the country thanks to the free airtime this ad has received. Pretty clever on their part, I must confess.

As for the ad itself- the only thing racist about it was the hateful bigotry coming out of Rev. Wright’s pie-hole. If Barack Obama has a problem with it, he should have left that church long ago. Now he has to deal with the consequences of calling a raving racist hatemonger his “spiritual advisor”. Too bad for him.

]]> By: Langley http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340465 Langley Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:29:12 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340465 Well, as I've said before, it either means that Obama believed what this man was selling or that he had to up his street cred (or "blackness") to be involved in Illinois politics. Either way, it doesn't speak well for him or any candidate who supports him. Well, as I’ve said before, it either means that Obama believed what this man was selling or that he had to up his street cred (or “blackness”) to be involved in Illinois politics. Either way, it doesn’t speak well for him or any candidate who supports him.

]]> By: Mike http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340463 Mike Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:16:18 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340463 Obama sat in church for many years and listened to this man rant and rave his nonsense. Obama clearly believed what this man was selling. If you support Barry Obama then you are supporting what he believes in as well. You can't say that you like Obama, but not the racist crap he believes in. If a politician stated they liked Joe Stalin and wished he had led America as well, but didn't agree with everything the guy did they would be rightly vilified. Obama is not Stalin, but endorsing either man (or any political leader) is endorsing the ideology each believes in. Obama sat in church for many years and listened to this man rant and rave his nonsense. Obama clearly believed what this man was selling. If you support Barry Obama then you are supporting what he believes in as well.

You can’t say that you like Obama, but not the racist crap he believes in. If a politician stated they liked Joe Stalin and wished he had led America as well, but didn’t agree with everything the guy did they would be rightly vilified.

Obama is not Stalin, but endorsing either man (or any political leader) is endorsing the ideology each believes in.

]]> By: Langley http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340461 Langley Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:11:15 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340461 Dude, "negative attacks," are what the rantings that Rev. Wright calls "sermons" on Sunday mornings. Pointing out a question of judgment on Sen. Obama's part (and if that's not a question of judgment, I don't know what is) for hanging out with this clown for so long, and candidates for office who endorse someone with such poor judgment, is more relevant than initially meets the eye. Dude, “negative attacks,” are what the rantings that Rev. Wright calls “sermons” on Sunday mornings. Pointing out a question of judgment on Sen. Obama’s part (and if that’s not a question of judgment, I don’t know what is) for hanging out with this clown for so long, and candidates for office who endorse someone with such poor judgment, is more relevant than initially meets the eye.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340459 Ryan Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:56:55 +0000 http://www.savethegop.com/2008/04/27/mccain-hasnt-even-seen-the-ad/#comment-340459 Oh please. This shows how pathetic some in the conservative movement have got in recent years. They twist logic to the point that it ceases to be logic. The NC GOP showed how desperate and pathetic they are as a political organization because they are forced to use such faulty examples of logic. This is partially the reason I do not call myself a conservative anymore because the conservative movement has been hijacked by those not concerned with putting forth the conservative agenda but launching such pathetic examples of negative attacks. Oh please. This shows how pathetic some in the conservative movement have got in recent years. They twist logic to the point that it ceases to be logic. The NC GOP showed how desperate and pathetic they are as a political organization because they are forced to use such faulty examples of logic. This is partially the reason I do not call myself a conservative anymore because the conservative movement has been hijacked by those not concerned with putting forth the conservative agenda but launching such pathetic examples of negative attacks.

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