Obama is Going to Win the Election
Written by Sam on September 29th, 2008Sorry, just calling it like I see it. Everything is falling apart. Today Wachovia Bank, headquarted in Charlotte and an employer of 120,000 people, was bought up by Citigroup. Projections are that 20,000 people will be laid off in the Charlotte area alone. Add this to the two week long gas shortage we’ve been experiencing in the southeast and USA Today’s projection that it will now last another two weeks and you can put North Carolina in the Democrat column on Election Day.
I can’t see how McCain will overcome all of the awful news that keeps popping up day after day. Other than perhaps Black Monday in 1987, I can’t think of another time in my lifetime where things have gotten so bad in this country. With a Republican President in the White House presiding over this, whether or not it’s his fault, I can’t see the public entrusting another four years to another Republican President. It would be absolutely unprecedented for McCain to win.
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I concur.
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The American people get what they deserve if they elect Obama.
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Ryan,
I assume you mean “deserve what they get”. If you’re saying that that we will “get what we deserve”, it implies (assuming that you think Obama is bad for the country) that you think that the American people have already done something wrong and deserve for bad things to happen to them.
Also, what’s with calling the American people “they” and not “we”?
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The American people are responsible for this financial mess in my book. They caused the mortgage crisis by talking out mortgages they could not afford. They have lived their lives on credit. They are turning to government for a solution instead of letting those who were stupid to be punished by the market.
The reason I use they is because I am losing my faith in this country. We are no longer a country that rewards playing by the rules as seen by this bailout. If we were a country that respected the rules and rewarded people who played by them, no bailout would occur. Why should my family and I, who have paid our debts back on time and thus played by the rules be forced to burden the costs of a bunch of rule breakers? We live in far from a fair society seeing merit is meaning less and less by the day.
My father works insane hours just to provide a middle class income. I got most of my college and law school paid for with scholarships. We play by the rules but receive little reward but higher taxes in the future to pay for this mess. If we were a fair society we would let those who made huge mistakes to suffer in their stupidity.
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Ryan,
Thanks for explaining yourself. I see what you’re saying.
To everyone else,
Some months ago a post criticized an article that said that the only reason Obama might lose is because of racism. A comment read that liberals “just can’t accept that their ideology is faulty”.
It seems like this post shows that the American people don’t like conservative financial ideology.
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“It seems like this post shows that the American people don’t like conservative financial ideology.”
Please just stop right now. How many American people even understand “conservative financial ideology”?
A better question would be, in what way has “conservative financial ideology” played any part in this socialist orgy of destruction?
Bottom line Ryan is right, the American people will get what they deserve each and every time they choose socialism over capitalism.
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“How many American people even understand “conservative financial ideology”
Probably not very many, which is why its strange to me that you all seem to think that your superior financial policy is going to result in winning an election.
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The American people do not care about the issues or ideology. If they did, this race would be between Fred Thompson and Bill Richardson, probably the most policy driven for each party.
This can be proven by having Obama (Mr. Abstract) and McCain (Mr. No-Ideology) as the nominees.
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Obama is not as abstract as posters on this blog keep claiming. His bumper stickers about hope and change are certainly abstract, but his speeches and policy briefs on his website have extremely specific details. Someone on this blog criticized his nomination acceptance speech for being TOO specific.
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David, conservative financial ideology played no role in this mess.
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Sam,
That’s not what I’m hearing from economists on TV (and I do watch Fox News as well as the “liberal media). They’re saying that the lack of regulation allowed these firms to make stupid investments.
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Also, if that is true, why is the crisis helping Democrat polling numbers so much?
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“That’s not what I’m hearing from economists on TV . . .”
Stop. You need to hit the internet and do some serious research if you want to understand why we are where we are. Listening to some economist on TV isn’t going to get it done.
I’m going to post a round-up later this evening of opinions that should help to clarify exactly what is happening right now in the markets and it certainly has nothing to do with lax regulations.
“. . . why is the crisis helping Democrat polling numbers so much?”
For the very simple reason that this disaster was brought on in part by the policies of President Bush, Ben Bernake and Hank Paulson. Now none their policies could be described as free market or conservative, but that is besides the point, the ruling party will take the hit and the GOP deserves it just as much as the Democrats in congress do.
However if the American people make the mistake of responding to this crisis by electing a socialist in the form of Barry Obama then they will have badly misjudged the situation.
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“We are no longer a country that rewards playing by the rules as seen by this bailout.”
Ryan, just because you and your family (like me and my family) have used our credit responsibly, doesn’t mean that those who haven’t are not “playing by the rules.”
One of the big issues here is that the rules are incredibly lax. There are no “rules”. The fundamental conservative philosophy is to trust the people to handle things responsibly.
This does not work.
People cannot be trusted to act responsibly.
Am I a codgy old cynical liberal?
Absolutely.
Do I have a general mistrust for the American people.
Absolutely.
Welcome to the club, my conservative friend.
Also, this bailout really is pretty necessary unless we want credit to completely evaporate. The market would, probably, eventually, fix this. But not before things get much worse than they already are.
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David, I am glad we are both cynical about people in general. The only difference is that we take a different view of how to deal with the problem. You see the government as a tool to keep people in line. I see the free market as the only tool capable of keeping people within line with some exceptions to help the truly needy.
Credit will not dry up with those with decent financial records. I get credit card offers on a daily basis and I got approved for some student loans within minutes. Credit will dry up for those who mismanage their money and who are risks. Is this a bad thing? I do not see it that way. If we had tighter credit before, we should not have these problems for the most part.
The rules are common sense and basic morality. Those who took out bad mortgages were more or less committing theft and stupidity. Those who gave them were largely doing the same. If people were honest, somewhat intelligent, and lived within their means, we would not have this problem. The market teaches these people a lesson where as a government bailout makes it ok to screw up so badly.
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Of course Obama is going to win the election. George W Bush , Dick Cheney and the Republican congress have been the best gift any political party could wish for. The list of major screw-ups these guys are responsible for is astounding..but three big ones are perceived as their fault: the 9-11 attacks, invading the wrong country, and the economic debacle we are seeing unfold today. Poor Bush is just solidifying what we have always known for 8 long years, he is a hapless tone deaf idiot whose presidency was bought and paid for. Almost sorry to see him go, but wait, there is always Sarah Palin!!!
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Why Obama Will Lose Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5bkGUJrVH4
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Um… not to rain on your rant, there, Mr. Cynical, but we presently have a Democratic congress.
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McCain/Palin needs to do more convincing that Obama’s policies will lead to greater economic problems. I hope to hear more of that.
Hope is not all lost for McCain, mr. cynical. He did better in his first speech than you really thought. Giving Obama too much credit makes no sense (just because he is a D).
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Both parties are to blame for this fiasco on the government end, but most of the blame should fall on the shoulders of the American people.
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Ryan,
You need to understand something important. If credit dries up, it does NOT mean that people with lower credit scores will not get credit cards. It means YOUR EMPLOYER WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY YOU. This, I’m sure, you do not deserve, nor do I, but it is reality.
I am happy for you that you are responsible and hard working, but a credit crisis is more than taking away credit cards. It’s about everyone’s livelyhoods.
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Why would anyone vote the same party in who have raped it over the last eight years. This recession is just a precurser to the depression McCain will cause with his plans, and God forbid he died in office and Palin became president.
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Tip, you wouldn’t know a depression if it bit you in the ass.
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I am completely in agreement with you Ryan. Its a darn shame things have come to this but whats a guy to do?
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Dear Ryan,
Did we get what we deserved for electing George W Bush?
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I WONDER WHAT THIS ELECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE WITHOUT PRESS COVERAGE.
THEY ARE SO BIASED AGAINST JOHN MCCAIN AND THE GULLABLE PUBLIC BELIEVES IT ALL. I LIVE IN ILLINOIS AND OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING FOR US
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i did not cause my problem when i bought my house in 2006 i was making 74,000 because of to bad economy i now have another job making 39,000 had to use my 401k to catch up on bills if i don’t find help i will lose my house.
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We all know Obama is going to win this election, 2009-2012!